July 22, 2016
News and Other Things for Harbour Vista Community Huntington Beach
posted 22 July 2016
Because the Bolsa Chica Bird sanctuary is just around the corner, Harbour Vista ponds and streams can attracted large waterfowl birds. It is not uncommon to see white egreps walk our streams. What is unusual and is our pet of the month, is a Great Blue Heron.
There he was standing across from a bridge on Grunion side near the garages. This bird stood at lease five and half feet tall. He held his gaze on me as I approach.
I move slowly, but he could finally not trust me anymore and took flight. Great Blue Heron can have a wing span of six feet. This one flew pass a building stairs and across a balcony into the sky. He was beautiful. Hope he returns. Anyway, one of our resident ducks complained to me that I should take a picture of her and her new duckling and stop gaping at the blue heron. So I obliged. ■
posted 22 June 2016
Architectural/Parking/Board Committees Highlights
Awning Pilot
Broken Door Frame
Beige Windows Removed
Parking Again?
A combined architectural and parking committees meeting was held on July 6th in "emergency executive session" with the HOA Board. All Board members were present plus the committee members. Only items that did not fall under confidential information are disclosed in this article.

The Board told the committee that they were being split into two committees with adoption of the new charters.
Awning Pilot
A pilot was approved to allow a homeowner to install awning shades on their balcony. The recommended color will be beige since it would be the lease obtrusive to the architecture of the building. The homeowner accepted all costs associated for the installation and its removal, if necessary. The Board will vote to suspend the rules for this pilot.
Broken Door Frame
The Board informed the architectural committee that it was unnecessary to submit an architectural request form for replacement of a broken door frame. The HOA would pay for the purchase of a new door frame and pay for all labor cost associated with the installation of the frame and door. The cost of the door is the members responsibility. A shared expense agreement may need to be made with this homeowner whohas the broken door.
Architectural Guidelines Change
Even though the architecture committee had agreed on beige and white vinyl retrofit windows for the architectural guidelines, the Board removed beige. The guidelines will take affect when they are mail to the members and will not be retroactive. Michael Barto informed the Board that the Aime Rosendahls (the recent litigation defendent) had contributed about 80% to the writing of the "architectural guidelines" that he had submitted.
Architectural Committee Charter
Michael Barto expressed concern that the new architectural committee charter that Mary Williams wrote did not mention what the architectural committee was responsible for approving inside a un He had requested a revision to the old charter to avoid entrapment issues since the inside approval requirements are blurry in the poorly readable CC&R’s document with obtuse language. He was asked to submit his suggestions to the Board.
Architectural Guidelines
Michael Barto expressed concern that the new architectural committee charter that Mary Williams wrote did not mention what the architectural committee was responsible for approving inside a un He had requested a revision to the old charter to avoid entrapment issues since the inside approval requirements are blurry in the poorly readable CC&R’s document from 1980 with obtuse language. He was asked to submit his suggestions to the Board.
Parking Committee
The parking committee and the Board had complex discussion for new parking rules and enforcement procedures which were adopted (we think).■
posted 23 June 2016
Dinning Around Harbour Vista
by Terri Piper-Johnson
New to the area, we found a favorite to share with friends and family-River’s End Cafe. It is located on a wide sandy beach at the end of the San Gabriel River in Seal Beach (about 6 miles from Harbour Vista). The views include Seal Beach Pier, Long Beach Marina, Palos Verdes and Catalina but best of all, you are practically on the beach looking out at the ocean.
Except Major Holidays
The restaurant is open every day except major major holidays from 7am-2:30pm for breakfast and lunch. The owners are Mike and Carolyn and their staff take good care of the place.
Eclectic Menu
The menu is eclectic with all american, southern Caribbean and Central American style dishes. Our favorites are the huevos rancheros which is served with 3 eggs, on warm corn tortillas, lots of black beans with melted jack and cheddar cheese, topped with avocado and ranchero sauce. But that’s not all…you get tasty breakfast potatoes too at $11.50. The french toast full stack is $7.50 and it’s 4 slices of bread…which we have to share with our table because it’s so good and so much. The other favorite is the chorizo scramble with beef chorizo, scrambled eggs with black beans, rice and tortillas at $11.50. Our friends said the fish tacos with the halibut were fabulous and they come with the black beans and rice as well.
Not Fancy
The portions have always been plentiful since I’m always walking out with a to-go box. Being in the food business all our working life, and married to the chef of 39 years, I can always suggest to Nick, Rivers End and he’ll say yes! It is not fancy but the staff are helpful and fast as they can. It’s a busy place so there might be a little wait, but go check out the beach first instead after to walk off all the yummy food■
15 1st Street
Seal Beach, CA 90740
Tel: 562-431-5558
Breakfast & Lunch:
 7am - 2:30pm (Everyday)
 3pm - 8:30pm (Thr - Sun)
 April 7th to Oct. 31st
 (Summer Hours)
posted 21 July 2016
The Comedy Meeting
by Michael Barto
Members might be confused by a posting at the Bulletin Board for a meeting of the Architectural and Parking Committees for July 6th. The confusions started July 1 when an agenda was posted for an Open meeting. This next day this notice was removed. They were posted again, but these were again removed. Vandalism?... On June 5th a notices was place under the HOA glass cases for an emergency executive session with the committees with same agenda as before but baring any HOA members from attending.
Certainly this spokesperson Michael Barto was confused. No email or phone call was received from the Board. Also the agenda for an emergency executive session did not meet the requirements for such a meeting.
Asked to Call a Meeting
At HOA monthly meeting on June 27th, when the Board announced the adoption of the new committee charters, the President Mike Mengel asked Michael Barto and Ray Koagel to get the architecture and parking committees together for a meeting with the Board. I was in the process of setting up this meeting when an email was received from Board member Mary Williams as follows a meeting scheduled for Wednesday July 6, 2016 at 6:30 at the clubhouse for the parking committee and the architectural committee. This is a closed meeting between the HOA board and the committees only. Please inform your committee members the concern was that this email contain NO agenda.
What Is Going On?
I emailed Mary Williams and asked for an agenda and the justification for a closed meeting, but no answer was ever forthcoming. With no answer this created confusion as to what to set up and post at the bulletins boards. Confusion arose because any decision making committees such as the parking and architectural committee falls under the Davis-Sterling Open Meeting Act which states: "Committees with decision-making authority should give notice to the membership and post agendas and allow members to attend".
No Contact from the Board
Since notices should be posted in a timely manner and there was no correspondence from the Board, Michael Barto proceeded to write and post an agenda for an open meeting for July 6th which were again torn down.
The Open Meeting Act
The Davis-Sterling Act is very restrictive about executive session subjects. The only topic that can be discussed in executive session are legal issues to consider in litigation , formation of contracts with third parties, disciplinary hearings, personal issues, payment plans and foreclosures. To myself the bar was not reached with this agenda. An emergency meeting is required when circumstances that could not have been reasonably foreseen which require immediate attention and possible action by the board, and which of necessity make it impracticable to provide notice to the membership in a timely manner. The meeting was originally announced on July 1st. and I became concerned that in an emergency, where immediate board action is required, a director does not have a legitimate reason to waive the 48-hour notice, that director may be in breach of his/or her fiduciary duties.
The Board Refused
As the architectural spokesperson, I was very angry when I was informed at this emergency executive session meeting, that only the Board could call meetings. Since the Board did not want to cooperate with this spokesperson by having the courtesy to let me know what was going on, I felt that my effectiveness on this committee was useless and asked the Board to dismiss me. The Board refused. I stated that the agenda for this meeting did not meet bar for an emergency executive session. The Board said that they did not see that way. And when I asked why they did not want members to attend. They stated that the reason was because they did not want member to observe or asked questions which they felt would slow down the work of the meeting!
---Michael Barto
Footnote: In condominium developments, the architectural committee is primarily focused on internal (i) alterations and improvements that impact the common areas (ii) window treatments that are visible from the outside, and (iii) balcony and patio issues.  Successful Architectural Committees meet and discuss in Open Meetings with Members and then provide suggestions to the Board for final approval. 
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posted 31 May 2016 (update 1 July)
June 27th Elections
The Election Ballots have been mailed from the election processing service Majority Rules (Professional HAO Elections) to all HOA members.
Five Positions
Five (5) candidates are formally on the Ballot. They are five positions that are up for election.
  • Mihai (Michael) Huma - incumbent
  • Ted La Mantia - incumbent
  • Michael Mengel - incumbent
  • Terri Piper-Johnson
  • Mary Williams - incumbent
Elections were held on June 27th. Quorum was not met (48 ballotsreceived - first pass). The Election Meeting was rescheduled to July 25 at 6:30pm in the Cabana Clubhouse when quorum will be met. Untill that day, members can still submit their ballots.

If you did not receive a ballot, contact Action Property Management to obtain one YOu can also obtain a ballot at the meeting■
posted 22 June 2016
June HOA Meeting Highlights
Kitchen Repair Incomplete
Large Deficit.
The Annual HOA Election meeting was held on June 27. The election inspector Tommy Ouzoonian announced that only 48 ballots were received. Quorum (91 ballots) had not been met. The Election Meeting is now rescheduled to July 25. Quorum will be reduce to 46 ballots. The election inspector announced that the deadline to submit ballots is extended to 6:30pm on July 25. If a member has not yet received their ballot, they can obtain one from Action Property Management or at the rescheduled Election Meeting on July 25.
Regular Meeting
The regular HOA meeting was called to order. All current Board Members were present with Rhonda Hart from Action Property Management and sixteen homeowners.
The Board announced the adoption of new Charters for the Architectural, the Landscaping and the Parking committees. The President Mike Mengel asked the spokespersons for the combined Architectural/Parking Committee (Michael Barto and Ray Koagel) to contact their members to hold a meeting with the Board. 

The new Charters break the Parking and Architectural into two committees and establishes a charter for the Landscaping Committee. Only the Board will appoint the members and the spokespersons.  
Open Forum
  • It was asked who is responsible for sweeping the outside one bedroom hallways. The Board stated that no vendor is assigned to do it. Other members said that most the time they do it themselves.
  • Again the complaints were heard about the poor quality of the landscaping service.
  • Complaints were expressed about dog feces left on the property. Residents should identify perpetrators and report them to Action Property Management.
  • A member complained about the shabbiness roadways and parking spaces. There is not enough money at this time for repairs. See “The Parking Lot is Crumbling (October 23, 2013)“.
  • The Board said that it was alright for a homeowner to power wash a dirty drop down of an upstairs balcony in their building.
  • A member informed the Board that two properties for sale had been put on hold because the financing had been withdrawn. The first property was declined because of the litigation. The second property was declined because of operating fund large deficit. 
  • This member asked that something be done to open negotiations to extend the land lease (expires 2041). As the Harbour Vista land lease gets close to the 20 year mark, financing will become more difficult. 
Slab Leak Damages Still Not Repaired
A resident asked why he had not heard an answer to his certified letter about the uncompleted repairs to his downstairs condo. The damage occurred more than a year ago when the HOA plumber was rerouting a drain line in the cement slab below the kitchen sink.
Image of repair in progress. Countertop was left propped up for about six months waiting for decision to be made.
A water line broke next to this work and over the weekend flooded his kitchen and living room. The kitchen cabinets were destroyed and the restoration company threw away the dishwasher (original dishwasher). The countertop and the sink were left propped up by 2X4s for about three months cracking the cast iron sink which were finally also thrown away. The HOA replaced the cabinets, but did not finish the sink, dishwasher and baseboards. The homeowner has no insurance. His letter asks the HOA to finish the job and pay for the dishwasher and the sink and baseboards
The Board stated that they thought this was already completed. The homeowner said he had sent many emails to Action Property Management with their final response that the HOA was not in the remodeling business! He stated that he was in the hospital the day on the slab leak and came home to find his kitchen gone except for the countertops and sink. He would like the HOA to finish the job or pay him the money so he can get it completed, and pay the out of pocket cost for the sink.
Financial Report
The HOA has been carrying over an Operating Fund deficit for the last  three months. This current deficit is more than one month of assessments for the 180 units. HOA financial statements are online on the Vivo Web Site.  This deficit is attributed to the litigation and trail expenses. The HOA did prevail and has a lien on the property. When this money will be forthcoming is not clear yet. But the Board is funding legal council to investigation and review the defendant’s assets. 
Financial Questions
A member said it appears obvious that the HOA dues will be raised and does the Board know how much we are funding our legal council Berding & Weil LLP to investigate and collect. A Board member stated that “they had no idea”. He asked if they Board was considering a special assessment to cover this shortfall. It was stated that this was unknown at this time.
Unfinished Business
  • Grunion Boiler replacement was tabled.
  • Clubhouse Chairs Upholstery was tabled.
New Business
  • Artistic landscaping proposal was approved 
  • Installation of some more Thumb latch locks for the entrance gates was approved.
  • A Bank CD for the HOA was approved to be cashed in to pay for the balcony repair.
Election Meeting
The next meeting of the HOA will be Monday, July 25 at 6:30m in the Cabana Clubhouse. This is the rescheduled Election Meeting. The board has also scheduled a regular meeting after the elections. ■
Current News (click links)
HOA Meeting Agenda Update (07/23/16)
Dinning Arround Harbour Vista (07/22/16)
Meet Great Blue Heron (07/22/16)
Committees Meeting (07/21/16)
The Comedy Meeting (07/22/16)
June HOA Meeting Highlites (07/20/16)
Rentals (07/13/16)
Real Estate Update (07/12/16)
Election Status (07/01/16)
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Member at Large
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Upcoming HOA Meeting Schedules
(subject to change without notice)
Date Location Time Agenda
25 July
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
July 25, 2016

Quorum Requirement
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
June 27, 2016 (after elections meeting - See Quorum)
    The Board of Directors will hold an Executive Session on July 25, 2016, immediately following this meeting, to discuss matters related to member discipline and collections.
    Open Forum and Board Meeting Conduct
    The items on the Consent Calendar are routine or items that have been discussed with the Board, approved verbally or electronically, and action taken, and the motion is stated in order to incorporate the action into the Association's corporate documents.
    1. Approval of the Regular Board Meeting Minutes of June 27, 2016.
    2. Acceptance of the Financial Statement for the period ending June 30, 2016.
    1. Architectural Committee
    2. Landscaping Committee
    3. Parking Committee
    1. Boiler Replacement Proposals
    2. Pool Furniture Discussion
    1. Artistic Maintenance Proposals
    2. 16551 Grunion #103 Proposals
    3. 16521 Grunion #304 Proposals
    4. Fast Signs Proposals
    5. Scott English Boiler Repair Proposals
    6. Wood Reparis (Extras) Proposals
    7. Landscape Proposals
    8. Janitorial Proposals
    9. Insurance Renewal
  9. SCHEDULE NEXT MEETING (August 22, 2016)
July 25, 2016 at 7:30 PM
    1. Approval of Executive Session Minutes dated June 27, 2016
    2. Legal Issues
    3. Litigation Matters related to collection of assessment
22 August
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
August 22, 2016

August 22, 2016 at 7:30 PM
Real Estate Summary
(as of July 12, 2016)
Active Real Estate Listing
Address Type Asking
4861 Lago Drive #203 3BD/2BA $334,900 (Cancelled)
Address Type Information
16512 Blackbeard Lane #105 1BD/1BA $199,000
Address Type Information
16542 Blackbeard Lane #100 3BD/2BA $265,000 (listed 7/11/16)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #205 1BD/1BA $206,600 (in Auction)
4861 Lago Drive #104 1BD/1BA $222,900
16512 Blackbeard Lane #101 3BD/2BA $324,900
Closed Sales 2016
Address Type Closed
4831 Lago Drive #201 3BD/2BA $291,000 (7/6/16)
4852 Cabana Drive #206 2BD/2BA $265,000 (7/1/16)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #106 1BD/1BA $229,500 (5/26/16)
16551 Grunion Lane #205 2BD/2BA $264,000 (04/12/16)
4861 Lago Drive #304 1BD/1BA $220,000 (04/07/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #204 2BD/2BA $270,000 (3/31/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #304 2BD/2BA $260,000 (3/18/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #105 2BD/2BA $283,000 (2/25/16)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #106 1BD/1BA $177,500 (1/19/16)
Closings Sales 2015
4861 Lago Drive #203 3BD/2BA $246,919
4831 Lago Drive #200 3BD/2BA $305,000
4831 Lago Drive #104
1BD/1BA $205,000
4791 Lago Drive #104 1BD/1BA $230,000
16512 Blackbeard Lane #202 3BD/2BA $240,000
4831 Lago Drive #103
2BD/2BA $265,000
16542 Blackbeard Lane #201 3BD/2BA $270,000

Note: An up green tick () means sold for more than asking price.
A down red tick ( ) means sold for less than asking price.
For sale, available to show, with no accepted offer.
A contingent offer is accepted and in escrow, but buyer retains contingencies to cancel, and the Seller is inviting "Backup" offers. The price shown is the list price, not necessarily the contract price.
Buyer has removed all contingencies, and the escrow is in final closing stages. The price shown is the list price, not necessarily the contract price.
The property has been removed from marketing, but a listing contract is unexpired, and still binding on the seller.
The listing is available for sale, but the property cannot currently be shown, usually for temporary convenience factors.
The following rental information was provided (13 July 2016))
Address Type Price Info/Ref
16512 Blackbeard Ln #105 1BD/1BA $1700/mon Craigs List
4861 Lago Dr #203 3BD/2BA $2600/mon Hot Pad
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