June 26, 2017
News and Other Things for Harbour Vista Community Huntington Beach
posted 11 June 2016
by Michael Barto
Once a Year, the HOA holds elections called the Annual Meeting. Each member of the HOA (property owner per unit) has 5 votes to elect five candidates. This is a total 900 votes across 180 units. If a member owns multiple units, they can cast multiples of five vote each. These votes are cumulative which means that each members can cast all their votes for one candidate or distribute them across multiple candidates.
Six Candidates
The 2017 election, represents the first time since 2013 that we have a contested election with more than five candidates for five positions. This year we have six candidates. Terri-Piper Johnson and Mary Williams are running as incumbents. Michael Barto and Cynthia Lee are former Harbor Vista Board members. The remaining candidates Helen Ruvelas and Candice Shultz will be new to the Harbour Vista Board - though candidate Helen Ruvelas has served as a board officer (including President) on various organization and Candice Shultz was a Co-President at another HOA. Read each Candidate’s statement HERE.
Harbour Vista News has decided to “Endorse” two of the Candidates. Michael Barto (yours truly [and self serving]) and Terri-Piper Johnson These are the only two candidates that have stated in their nomination requests that negotiation of the Land Lease must be a major priority.
For Myself
Most of you that read the Newsletter and know what I stand for. I want members to work together. I am very concerned with our property values remaining stagnant. Too many Harbour Vista properties are purchased as rentals because of large return on investment with low cost. This can only be stopped if Harbour Vista property values increase. The Land Lease must be extended and Harbour Vista financials must improve. Read my campaign statement.
For Terr Piper-Johnson
Terri-Piper Johnson has the same Land Lease Priorities as I do. But she also wants HOA fiscally responsible. When Terri was elected as Board Secretary to the current Board, she campaigned to curtail HOA legal expenses. Her action resulted in our legal council fees being collected on a contingency basis for a completion of a litigation. Read her campaign statement.
Set Mandates
Though your vote cannot elect the HOA President, the amount of votes cast may influence how the Board’s mandate is defined and who they select for which officer.
Election Requirements
As long as I have been tracking the Harbour Vista election, Quorum is never been met at the Initial Annual Meeting (92 members cast votes). This requires that the meeting be re-convened from anywhere from one week to 30 days later. At that time, quorum requirements are reduced to just 46 members cast votes. If that is not met, a similar procedure is repeated reducing the quorum again till the election can be certified and the results announced. 
Missing Ballot?
If you threw away your ballot, you can request another one from Majority Rule or better yet come to the Annual Meeting on June 26th, ask for a ballot and cast your vote.
Contact the Newsletter
Whether you support Harbour Vista News endorsements or not, please feel free to contact the Newsletter by phone (Cell 714-883-1949 [text]) or email (mbarto@logiqwest.com [text ok]) if you want to know more or just discuss issues.

Harbour Vista News has also posted all the Campaign Statements HERE along with some election information in our "Candidates Corner 2017" web page. ■
---Michael Barto
posted 20 May 2017
Dinning Around Harbour Vista
Millitary Coffee Shop
by Jim Gregg
Paul’s Coffee Shop captured my interest from the very start, especially from an ole military guy like me.
Located in a tiny strip mall across from Bullwinkle’s Family Fun Center just off the 405 Freeway at
Warner Avenue, you will snap to attention in this quant military theme restaurant just off the edge of Huntington Beach.
Our first gaze is of the wall to wall military memorabilia from all branches of service. I never saw so many uniforms in glassed showcases in one place in my life. There is one section of wall totally dedicated to Battleships, which was memorable to see. I tried to follow protocol by firing off a very sharp salute to the waitress, but she was having none of that, “stand at ease mister, were all taking it easy here”!
Very Very Large Chicken Fried Steak
It was” shock and awe” time military style when they delivered the food, we ordered the BLT and fries,
and one humongous chicken fried steak that was so big it could feed a family of four. It also came with
scrambled eggs and hash browns potato’s and even a very large biscuit smothered in country gravy.
Wow, I don’t believe I‘ve ever seen a meal so large for a single person, and on top of that, it was
delicious! We didn’t know what we were getting ourselves into when we visited Paul’s Coffee Shop, luckily, they supply ample amounts of “doggy bags”! ■
Paul’s Coffee Shop
16947 Bushard St,
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 965-3643
Web: http://paulscoffeeshopfountainvalley.com
Business Hours: Daily 7am to 2pm
Dinner Hours: Fri, Sat and Sun only 3pm to 9pm
posted 28 April 2017
Video Doorbell
by Michael Barto
For my one bedroom condo, I decided to install a security video doorbell. Video doorbells work like any other doorbell, but are Wi-Fi enabled, include a video camera, speaker, microphone and a motion detector. The motion detector is triggered anytime someone is outside the door and starts recording video which is stored in the cloud. It also sends notification and streaming video to your mobile phone. You can interact with the doorbell remotely from a mobile phone. If someone rings your doorbell, you cantalk with them (e.g “sorry I am not interested”, “I am busy”, “leave the package on the door”, etc.).
I compared the two most popular brands: “Ring” and “Skybell HD”. Ring is easiest to purchase from the local Home Depot, Lowe’s or Best Buy, while Skybell HD has to be ordered on-line. Both have the same list price, but Skybell was cheaper from Amazon. Each one is available in two colors color (silver or bronze). But the Ring offers two other colors and a deluxe version for $50 with some other features. Here are differences that stood out:
  Skybell HD Ring
Style Round Elongated Rectangle
Video Quality Best Good
Not as good as Skybell, but very acceptance
Price $173.11
Video Storage Costs Free: 7 days cycle $30/year: 6 week cycle. Free first year
Motion Sensor Good
3 modes
Supports multiple zones
I selected the round Skybell HD because of it style and its free video storage. It took me ten minutes to install. The Skybell HD kit includes a stucco drill and screw driver. Our Condos electrical doorbell transformers are fully compatible with both.
Very Easy Installation
I only had to hook up two wires and it did not matter which wire went where. After it was installed, I download the mobile App to my phone (iPhone or Android) and it walked me though the internet set up. By the way, the Skybell has some additional features that the Ring does not. You can turn off all its light or have them glow red and green for Christmas (mistletoe not included). For both bands there are extensive videos on YouTube.
If Stolen?
Both bands offer free replacement if someone steals them from your door.
Note: See related article “Security Cameras Never Worked” ■
Revised update posted 26 June 2017
Open to All

Quorum of 91 vote cast was not met at the June 26th meeting (only 73 votes cast). Quorun will be reduced to 46 votes cast and the Annual (Elections) will be held on July 24th. Members may still not cast their ballots, if they have not already done so up and to the meeting on July 24th.■
updated 14 June 2017
May-June 2017 Maintenance Happenings
June 16: According to the Electronic Gate, the HOA paid for a new line to be run from the Gate to the Frontier Trunk line. That work for a period of time, but started failing (too much static on the line and a buzz). Another set from the trunk line was tried which also worked fine and then experienced the same failure. On Tuesday June 13th, the entrance part tof the gate was struck by a car. This created a 6 to 8 inch distortion in its frame and disable its from working. Pending approval from the Board, the next step will be to repair the gate.
June 14: By decission of the Board, the Lago gates entrance gate (which is somewhat broken due to a car collision) and exist gate have been set to be permanently open till repairs aare made. Beside repair of the entrance gate, both the phone company and the electronic gate company need resolve their issue to get the kiosk system working. Without an operational kiosk system, person visiting Harbour Vista could only use their cell phone to contact a resident to come down to the gate and let them in. Also, HOA vendors and delivery services could not use their gate code to obtain access to the property.
Lago Gate Phone Kiosk Broken
The HOA recently replaced the old (cica 1997) Gate Key Phone Directory System with an new up-to-date one. Except for the Lago Gate Kiosk, the new system work great. The Lago Gate System phone line started working intermittently and was declared dead around April 18th. Persons using the Kiosk could not call in. Residents are not able to let vendors into pick up or deliver packages.
Line Repair
The phone company Frontier made a couple of trips to repair this line which terminates into a main trunk line in the electrical closet at the north end of the 4861 Lago Building. Typical phone cable line consist of six conductors in three sets of two wires. Only one set is required per line. When a second set was used to replace the first set, it also eventually failed. A third set was tried, but as of May 19th, this last set has stopped working.
A Different Problem?
It is being suggested that the wiring failure is not in the extension line to the kiosk but in the trunk line itself. Any way Frontier is responsible for diagnosing the problem and repair it. One option is to replace this kiosk line with a cell phone hub instead of a hardwire phone system. The monthly cost are about equivalent and it is less expensive option for the phone company than to replace a trunk line.
Stream Overflows
The stream at the end of 16542 BlackBeard building facing the garages started leaking aroundMay 16th. The trickling went down the sidewalk and on the other side of the stream into the landscaping areas.A homeowner provided detail photos of the problem to Action Community Care.
A Scheduled Repair
Though Diversified Waterscapes immediately sent outsomeone to evaluate this issue, it was concluded thatrepairs could wait till the vendors regular schedule visit the next day. On May 19th , Diversified Waterscapes repaired the problem as a normal maintenance issue ( and not at extra cost to the HOA) by trimming an over grown bush in the stream.■
posted 26 December 2016
Private Social Media Site
For Harbour Vista
Nextdoor is a private social network for our neighborhood. Neighbors register by their location (street name) and then become part of group. For Harbour Vista residents, our group is called Harbour Pines. There is no charge to be a member. To start go to (https://nextdoor.com/), you will find and meet your neighbors there.■
Rescheduled 26 June 2017


Will hold a Meeting on
THIS THURSDAY June 27, 2017
AT 6:30 PM
LOCATION: Cabana Clubhouse


  1. Pending Applications
    1. Door Replacement
    2. Split Air Conditions
    3. Attic Space Remodeling
  2. Update Architectural Guidelines
    1. Wall space heaters guidelines
    2. Exterior Doors guidelines
    3. Video doorbells and cameras
  3. Blanket Approval Policy
    1. Split Air Conditions
    2. Exterior Doors Replacements
Any HOA Members is Invited to attend.
For further information please contact the ARC spokesperson Michael Barto 714-883-1949 (also text) or email mbarto@logiqwest.com.
posted 19 June 2017
Recipe of the Month
by Eden Hommes
Try this cholesterol-free burrito filled with fresh vegetables and savory scrambled tofu for a healthy and filling breakfast! It saves time to prepare the ingredients the day before, heat up the tofu and potato mixture in the morning, and top with the pre-chopped vegetables.

  • Whole Wheat Tortillas (Try Ezekiel Bread's Sprouted Wheat Tortillas from Trader Joes)
  • Frozen shredded potatoes
  • Red bell pepper (diced)
  • Green bell pepper (diced)
  • Red onion (diced)
  • Tomato (diced)
  • Avocado (diced)
  • Daiya Vegan Cheddar Cheese shreds
  • Salsa
  • Scrambled Tofu:
    • 1 lb drained and crumbled extra firm tofu
    • 1 1/2 tsp. coconut or olive oil
    • 4 tsp. soy sauce
    • 2 tsp. curry powder
    • 1/8 tsp. black pepper
    • 1/2 tsp. tumeric
Dice the fresh vegetables and set aside.
Crumble the tofu into a pan with the oil, soy sauce, curry, black pepper, and tumeric, and mix well.

Cook for about 10-15 minutes on high until browning slightly. Stir frequently!

Meanwhile spread shredded potatoes in a pan or glass plate, season with salt and pepper, and cook in Toaster Oven or Oven until browning.

Spread a layer of scrambled tofu and potatoes on a warmed tortilla, and top with shredded cheese, diced vegetables, and salsa. ■
posted 13 June 2017
Due to a recently mailing by non identifying sender disucssing the current election, many members are furious that their mailing address has been compromised without their permission. But according to the Davis-Stirling Act Civic Code §5200(a)(9), any member can obtain this list which consiting of only a member's name, property address, and mailing address. To understand this more, see Member List
posted 11 June 2017
May 2017 HOA Meeting Highlights
Landscaping Big Concern
Operating Deficit Growing
The May 22 monthly HOA meeting was held in the Cabana Club House. Board Only three members from the Board were in attendance: Mike Mengel, Mary Williams and Terry Piper-Johnson. Ted LaMantia and Mihai (Mike) Huma were not present. Action Property Manager Peggy Shaw was present along with 13 HOA members.
Open Forum
  • Members for 40 minutes expressed concern about the landscaping and the vendor. Areas are not being mowed. Poor grass edging. What is going on with planting.
  • Member asked for clarification of some of the proposed Rules and Regulations wording. It was felt that wording was not clear and vague
  • Members expressed concern about the elevators not being clean.
  • A member asked about the settlement amount of $12K that was awarded for a slab two leak issue that was mention in the recently released 2016 audit report. The member asked what additional legal expenses were incurred with this settlement. The Board did not seem to have that information readily available. Nor did they say they would provide it later.
It was announced that Parking Placards for visitor parking would be shortly issued to members.
Financial Report
The HOA reported that it is carrying an operating accounts deficit of approximately 11% of the HOA yearly assessments. This was a 3% increaase from the previous month.
Unfinished Business
  • Approval for Bemus Landscaping planting was again tabled.
  • The Fire Alarm Panel replacement was approved.
  • The new Rules and Regulations were approval was again deferred.
New Business
  • After a discussion, the Proposal for repair of the Electronic Door and Gate was deferred. See Lago Gate Phone Line Broken,
  • Replace of Boiler #5 and Boiler #6 affecting Buildings 4861 Lago and 4852 Cabana were approved. (Scheduled for June 7th)
  • The Cabana Clubhouse enhancements were discussed with no conclusion
Four liens were approved for non payment amounting to $10K.

The Annual Meeting (Elections) is Scheduled for June 26th starting at 6:30pm in the Cabana Clubhouse. This election meeting will either meet quorum or will be continue at another time. The next Open Session meeting of the HOA is also scheduled for June 26th with an agenda that will be posted.■
Current News (click links)
Reschedule ARC Announcement (06/7/17)
Renter's Corner (06/19/17)
Breakfast Burrito (06/19/17)
Lago Gate Now Broken (06/16/17)
DIsclosure of Mailing List (06/13/17)
Endorsement (06/12/17)
Candidates Corner (06/12/17)
May HOA Meeting Highlites (06/11/17)
Six Candidates (06/08/17)
Real Estate Update (06/01/17)
Dinning: Paul's Coffee Shop (05/20/17)
Pending Rules and Regulations (04/30/17)
Video Doorbell (04/28/17)
Comments, Responses and Suggestions
Contribution, comments, responses, suggestions, corrections (including broken links) or something to add? Restaurant Reviews, Pet of the Month (does not need to be your own) Please take the time from a busy life to help us and 'mail us' at:
email: mbarto@logiqwest.com
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You will have a warm inner glow for the rest of the day. ■
Property Management
Action Property
Management Company

2603 Main Street, Suite 500
Irvine, CA 92614
Tel: 800-400-2284
Community Care: 800-400-2284
Web: http://www.actionlife.com
Community Manager: Peggy Shaw
Email: pshaw@actionlife.com
Direct Line: 949-450-0202
Community Care: communitycare@actionlife.com
Community Portal: http://www.vivoportal.com/
Harbour Vista HOA
HOA Board Email contact: hvboard@harborvistahoa.com
HOA Board of Directors
Name/Title Individual Emails/Cells
Michael Mengel
Ted LaMantia
Vice President
Terri Piper-Johnson
cell: (707) 477-9044 (txt also)
Mary Williams
Mihai (Mike) Huma
Member at Large
(click name link to read profile statement)
Guide to Harbour Vista News
Web Repository
Harbour Vista News web repository includes documentation sets and discussion. Many Documents are provided as both PDF’s and easily displayed html versions. Included are: See Menu pulldowns at top of Page.
Homeowner's Portal: www.vivoportal.com
HOA Official Web Site: harbourvistahoa.com
HOA Email: hvboard@harbourvistahoa.com
revised 30 April 2017
for Rules and Regulations

At the March HOA Meeting, the Board released new Rules and Regulations for comments. But at the month’s April HOA Meeting, many members said they had never received a copy. The Board decided to extend the comment period till the next HOA meeting on May 22. In discussion with members, there are concerns about the changes. Even though these “Rules and Regulations” are 13 pages long, Harbour Vista News cannot emphasize more that members need to review them and submit comments as quick as possible to prevent unreasonable rules adoption.

The following are highlights of changes but are in no way all the changes in the proposed “Rules and Regulations
Roll Up Shades
Members are concern about the prohibition of patio roll up shades as stated in the new rule:
  1. No Television or radio antennae, clothesline, wiring, balcony covers, screening, roll up shades, air conditioning, water softeners or other equipment shall be installed on patios and balconies or exterior of the buildings.
Many members request that they be allowed to attach roll up shades to their balconies and patios. The thinking is that the approval of shades should to be part of the Architectural Review Committee (ARC), and not prohibited by a rule. Members who work at night and sleep during the day need to be allowed to install shades with ARC approval.
New Regulations
Some new rules have been added such as “Do not feed the ducks,” “Break down all boxes before placing them in trash bins. Dumping of mattresses, appliances, furniture, water heaters at the trash bin area is not permitted”, “No smoking in the pool areas”, “Swim diapers must worn by babies and small children.”, “Satellite dishes can only be installed on unit patio or balcony railings; no roof-top installation.”

The proposed satellite dishes rule is fundamentally flawed with allowing only balcony installation. This is not technically feasible. Members whose condo faces north have no “line of sight” to the satellites and the satellite is blocked by the building. Satellite provider install antennas on the south side roof wall over the flat part of the building.
Cut Off Time
The cut off time for use of the pools, jacuzzis, barbecues and pool areas has been reduced by an hour from 11pm to 10pm on the weekdays and from 12midnight to 11pm on the weekends.
New Pet Rules
Two new pet rules were added:
  1. Food and water bowls for pets should be kept inside. Leaving bowls of food on patios or balconies attracts rodents, raccoons, skunks, and other wild life.
  1. Washing of pet waste and urine off patio balconies is not permitted as it damages the balconies and patios below, and is a health hazard.

Harbour Vista News has posted the proposed Rules and Regulations at this link. You should email your comments to Peggy Shaw at Action Property Management (pshaw@actionlife.com) or to the Board hvboard@harborvistahoa.com). The more members that comment, the more is it likely the the proposed rules will be revised■

Upcoming HOA Meeting Schedules
(subject to change without notice)
Date Location Time Agenda
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
July 24, 2017 (Before Open Session)
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
July 24, 2017
July 24, 2017 (after open Session
28 August
Cabana Clubhouse 6:30PM
August 28, 2017
August 28, 2017 (after open Session)

Real Estate Summary
(as of June 1, 2017)
Active Real Estate Listing
Address Type Asking
4861 Lago Drive #104 1BD/1BA $243,000 (3/6)
4831 Lago Drive #103 2BD/2BA $295,000
Active/Under Contract
Address Type Information
Address Type Information
16512 Blackbeard Lane #205 1BD/1BA $196,300 (1/17)
Address Type Information
4852 Cabana Drive #106 2BD/2BA $488,000
Closed Sales 2017
Address Type Closed
16521 Grunion Lane #205 2BD/2BA $269,900 (5/31)
4861 Lago Drive #202 3BD/2BA $310,000 (4/24) (private sale)
4791 Lago Drive #102 3BD/2BA $297,000 (4/6)
16542 Blackbeard Lane #100 3BD/2BA $230,000 (1/17)
Closed Sales 2016
Address Type Closed
4861 Lago Drive #200 3BD/2BA $292,000
4861 Lago Drive #104 1BD/1BA $218,900
16512 Blackbeard Lane #105 1BD/1BA $180,000 (8/1/16)
4861 Lago Drive #203 3BD/2BA $296,000 (8/1/16)(private sale)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #101 3BD/2BA $312,750 (7/30/16)
4831 Lago Drive #201 3BD/2BA $291,000 (7/6/16)
4852 Cabana Drive #206 2BD/2BA $265,000 (7/1/16)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #106 1BD/1BA $229,500 (5/26/16)
16551 Grunion Lane #205 2BD/2BA $264,000 (04/12/16)
4861 Lago Drive #304 1BD/1BA $220,000 (04/07/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #204 2BD/2BA $270,000 (3/31/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #304 2BD/2BA $260,000 (3/18/16)
16521 Grunion Lane #105 2BD/2BA $283,000 (2/25/16)
16512 Blackbeard Lane #106 1BD/1BA $177,500 (1/19/16)

Note: An up green tick () means sold for more than asking price.
A down red tick () means sold for less than asking price.
For sale, available to show, with no accepted offer.
Active/Under Contract indicates that the property has a binding contract and is in escrow, but they are still soliciting backup offers due to the Buyer still having the ability to cancel. A contingent offer is accepted and in escrow, but buyer retains contingencies to cancel, and the Seller is inviting "Backup" offers. The price shown is the list price, not necessarily the contract price.
Buyer has removed all contingencies, and the escrow is in final closing stages. The price shown is the list price, not necessarily the contract price.
The property has been removed from marketing, but a listing contract is unexpired, and still binding on the seller.
The listing is available for sale, but the property cannot currently be shown, usually for temporary convenience factors.
The following rental information was provided (19 June 2017)
Address Type Price Info/Ref
4861 Lago Dr #200 3BD/2BA $2900/mon Crestwave Property Management
Tel: 562.590.6464 (10 to 5 weekdays)
Harbour Vista News
16458 Bolsa Avenue #15
Huntington Beach, California 92649
Phone: 714-883-1949 (also text)

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